World of Warcraft: Forever launches on November 4, and Tailoring changed more than its recipe list suggests: most recipes between skill 90 and 300 go grey 20 to 45 points earlier than in Classic, so you move up to Mageweave and Runecloth sooner. This WoW Forever tailoring leveling guide is the cheapest 1-300 route we could build from the beta client’s skill-up data. It reaches 225 with about 60 Linen, 90 Wool, 510 Silk and 815 Mageweave, and uses trainer recipes only.

How solid this is: every skill threshold comes from SeeMeta’s Forever Tailoring table, and we checked each recipe on the route against the beta client’s skill-line data in build 1.60.1.70338 on wago.tools: all match. Skill 1 to 225 can be tested in the beta, and WoW-Professions’ beta-tested route confirms the learn levels we share with it. The client doesn’t store when a trainer teaches a recipe, so where nobody has tested one we estimate it. Skill 225 to 300 is untested everywhere, because Artisan needs character level 35 and the beta stops at 30. Craft counts are our estimates from Classic’s skill-up formula.

Quick Answer: Tailoring 1-300 in WoW Forever

  • Route to 225: Bolt of Linen Cloth to 30, Linen Belt to 55, Bolt of Woolen Cloth to 80, Woolen Cape to 100, Bolt of Silk Cloth to 120, Azure Silk Hood to 135, Formal White Shirt to 140, Bolt of Mageweave to 150, Crimson Silk Vest to 170, Black Mageweave Vest or Leggings to 180, Orange Mageweave Shirt to 190, Black Mageweave Gloves to 205, Black Mageweave Headband or Shoulders to 210, Red Mageweave Bag to 225.
  • Cloth: 60 Linen, 93 Wool, 512 Silk and 815 Mageweave to 225. From 225 to 290, about 1,740 Runecloth on paper.
  • Cost, our estimate: about 24 gold of thread and dye from vendors to 225 (19 gold of that is Heavy Silken Thread) plus 55 silver for the first three ranks. The cloth is the real cost; farm it yourself or check your server’s auction house.
  • Gates: Journeyman at skill 50 and level 10, Expert at 125 and level 20 (Stormwind or Undercity only), Artisan at 200 and level 35 (Theramore or Tarren Mill only).
  • The catch: after Runecloth Belt goes grey at 255, no trainer recipe gives skill, and the patterns that do have no known source in Forever yet. The last ten points cost another 100 to 1,090 Runecloth depending on which pattern you can get.

Do Tailoring Recipes Go Grey Earlier in WoW Forever?

Yes. We compared the 234 Tailoring recipes that exist in both the Forever beta client and the Classic Era client (build 1.15.9): 207 go grey earlier in Forever, 183 of them by 20 to 45 points. WoW-Professions’ claim of 25 to 45 points holds for most recipes above skill 150. Below that the gap is smaller, and the raid recipes didn’t move at all.

Grey in Classic atRecipesHow much earlier in ForeverExamples (Classic grey, Forever grey)
90 or lower110 to 5 pointsLinen Belt 85, 85; Brown Linen Pants 90, 85
95 to 1502710 to 40, mostly 25Bolt of Silk Cloth 145, 120
155 to 2003820 to 50, mostly 25Azure Silk Hood 165, 140
205 to 2604435 to 45, mostly 35Crimson Silk Vest 225, 190; Bolt of Runecloth 260, 215
265 to 33063Mostly 40 to 45Runecloth Belt 300, 255; Runecloth Gloves 320, 275
335 and higher51Mostly unchangedBloodvine, Flarecore, Glacial and the other raid recipes

The yellow threshold moved by the same amount for 231 of the 234 recipes, and so did the skill a pattern needs: for 145 of the 151 patterns in both clients, Forever’s requirement dropped by exactly as many points as the grey value (Pattern: Runecloth Bag needs 215 instead of 260, per classicdb). Trainer learn levels aren’t in the client, but WoW-Professions’ testers started Bolt of Woolen Cloth at 55 (Classic learn level 75), Bolt of Silk Cloth at 100 (125) and Bolt of Mageweave at 140 (175), exactly where the same rule puts them. We use that rule for the recipes nobody has tested yet.

What it means for cloth: each cloth carries you fewer points, so you switch to the next one 25 to 45 points sooner. Silk bolts stop giving skill at 120 (Classic 145), Mageweave bolts at 150 (185) and Runecloth bolts at 215 (260). We ran a standard Classic route through Classic’s thresholds with the same formula and compared it with our Forever route:

ClothStandard Classic route, 1-300Our Forever route, 1-290
Linen Cloth13560
Wool Cloth17093
Silk Cloth792512
Mageweave Cloth456815
Runecloth768about 1,740 (plus 100 to 1,090 for 290-300)

The cheap cloths matter less and the expensive ones far more: about 80% more Mageweave and more than twice the Runecloth. The Runecloth jump has two causes: Forever needs Runecloth from 225 instead of 250, and the end got expensive. Classic tailors finished on Runecloth Gloves, which stayed orange until 290; in Forever the same recipe goes grey at 275, and every recipe that still gives skill at 290 needs a rare pattern.

WoW Forever Tailoring Trainers and Rank Requirements

Every capital has Apprentice and Journeyman tailoring trainers in WoW Forever, but Expert is only taught in Stormwind and Undercity and Artisan only in Theramore and Tarren Mill, according to Zockify’s beta trainer data; rank gates are from Icy Veins’ beta table.

RankSkill capRequirementCost
Apprentice75Character level 5 (Icy Veins; WoW-Professions saw no level check in the beta)10 copper
Journeyman150Skill 50, level 105 silver
Expert225Skill 125, level 2050 silver (WoW-Professions)
Artisan300Skill 200, level 354 gold 50 silver

The other three costs are wow.gg’s Forever values for Alchemy; we expect Tailoring to match.

WoW Forever tailoring trainer map of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor with numbered Alliance, Horde and neutral trainers, the Expert trainers in Stormwind and Undercity, the Artisan trainers in Theramore and Tarren Mill, and the Merchant's Favor camps
Tailoring trainers in WoW Forever. Positions from Zockify’s beta trainer data on Forever’s continent maps. Skyborne also have two trainers on Zephras Isle (Apprentice and Journeyman). Map: Blizzard Entertainment
#WhereTrainers (rank, coordinates)Faction
1Stormwind, Mage QuarterLawrence Schneider (Apprentice, 53.5, 81.5), Sellandus (Journeyman, 52.2, 83.1), Georgio Bolero (Expert, 53.1, 81.4)Alliance
2Ironforge, the Great ForgeUthrar Threx (Apprentice, 43.8, 27.9), Jormund Stonebrow (Journeyman, 43.2, 29.4)Alliance
3Dalaran, Alterac MountainsCharles Worth (Journeyman, 17.7, 60.4)Alliance
4Undercity, Magic QuarterVictor Ward (Apprentice, 70.1, 29.8), Rhiannon Davis (Journeyman, 70.0, 30.6), Josef Gregorian (Expert, 70.8, 30.7)Horde
5Tarren Mill, HillsbradDaryl Stack (Artisan, 63.8, 20.8)Horde
6Booty Bay, StranglethornGrarnik Goodstitch (Journeyman, 28.8, 76.8)Both
7Darnassus, Craftsmen’s TerraceTrianna (Apprentice, 63.6, 21.2), Me’lynn (Journeyman, 63.4, 22.4)Alliance
8Theramore Isle, Dustwallow MarshTimothy Worthington (Artisan, 66.2, 51.8)Alliance
9Orgrimmar, the DragSnang (Apprentice, 62.9, 49.2), Magar (Journeyman, 63.7, 49.9)Horde
10Thunder BluffVhan (Apprentice, 44.3, 44.3), Tepa (Journeyman, 44.5, 45.4)Horde
11Camp Taurajo, the BarrensMahani (Journeyman, 44.9, 59.4)Horde
DotsApprentice onlyAlliance: Eldrin, Eastvale Logging Camp, Elwynn (79.2, 69.0); Grondal Moonbreeze, Auberdine (38.2, 40.5). Horde: Bowen Brisboise, Cold Hearth Manor, Tirisfal (52.6, 55.5); Kil’hala, the Crossroads (52.2, 31.7)Both

In Classic’s trainer data on classicdb, the Artisan trainer Timothy Worthington teaches every trainer recipe from Linen to Runecloth Belt, and we expect Forever’s higher trainers to work the same way. Plan one trip to Stormwind or Undercity at skill 125 and level 20, and bring the Silk and Mageweave for 125 to 225 so you can learn each recipe on the spot.

WoW Forever Tailoring Leveling Route 1-225

The cheapest way to level Tailoring from 1 to 225 in WoW Forever is a chain of trainer recipes that turns each bolt into a skill point first and a reagent later. Yellow and grey are the skill levels where a recipe starts to fail and where it stops giving points; until yellow, every craft is a point.

SkillRecipe (yellow / grey)CraftsMaterialsRecipe from
1-30Bolt of Linen Cloth (25 / 50)3060 Linen ClothKnown with Tailoring
30-55Linen Belt (50 / 85)2626 Bolts of Linen Cloth, 26 Coarse ThreadTrainer, learned by 30 in the beta
55-80Bolt of Woolen Cloth (70 / 85)3193 Wool ClothTrainer, learned by 55 in the beta
80-100Woolen Cape (80 / 115)2929 Bolts of Woolen Cloth, 29 Fine ThreadTrainer, learned by 80 in the beta
100-120Bolt of Silk Cloth (110 / 120)40160 Silk ClothTrainer, learned by 100 in the beta
120-135Azure Silk Hood (130 / 140)1733 Bolts of Silk Cloth, 33 Blue Dye, 17 Fine ThreadTrainer, about 120 (our estimate)
135-140Formal White Shirt (145 / 155)515 Bolts of Silk Cloth, 10 Bleach, 5 Fine ThreadTrainer, about 135 (our estimate)
140-150Bolt of Mageweave (145 / 150)1785 Mageweave ClothTrainer, learned by 140 in the beta
150-170Crimson Silk Vest (170 / 190)2080 Bolts of Silk Cloth, 40 Red Dye, 40 Fine ThreadTrainer, learned by 150 in the beta
170-180Black Mageweave Vest or Leggings (185 / 215)1020 Bolts of Mageweave, 30 Silken ThreadTrainer, about 170 (our estimate)
180-190Orange Mageweave Shirt (185 / 195)1212 Bolts of Mageweave, 12 Orange Dye, 12 Heavy Silken ThreadTrainer, about 180 (our estimate)
190-205Black Mageweave Gloves (195 / 225)1734 Bolts of Mageweave, 34 Heavy Silken ThreadTrainer, learned by 190 in the beta
205-210Black Mageweave Headband or Shoulders (205 / 235)617 Bolts of Mageweave, 11 Heavy Silken ThreadTrainer, about 190 (our estimate)
210-225Red Mageweave Bag (210 / 240)2182 Bolts of Mageweave, 41 Red Dye, 41 Heavy Silken ThreadTrainer, about 195 (our estimate)

Our estimates take Classic’s learn level and subtract the same shift the grey value got (Azure Silk Hood: 145 minus 25). Four notes on the route:

  • Make every bolt. Bolts made after their recipe turns grey give no skill, but you need them all: 128 Bolts of Silk Cloth and 163 Bolts of Mageweave in total.
  • If a trainer won’t teach a recipe yet: use WoW-Professions’ tested steps for that range. From 120, Double-stitched Woolen Shoulders, then Gloves of Meditation from 125 (they need an Elixir of Wisdom each); from 170, Crimson Silk Pantaloons to 190.
  • Red Mageweave Bag from 210 costs the same Mageweave per skill point as Black Mageweave Headbands, and the bags sell.
  • If you already have Runecloth: Bolt of Runecloth turns yellow at 210 and grey at 215, and you’ll need about 350 bolts for Artisan. If your trainer offers it at 205, those ten points come free.

For comparison, WoW-Professions’ beta-tested route to 225 lists about 65 Linen, 423 Wool, 704 Silk, 900 Mageweave and 20 Elixirs of Wisdom. Ours saves about 330 Wool, 190 Silk, 85 Mageweave and the elixirs, mostly by using Silk hoods and shirts at 120 to 140 and Mageweave from 170. The price is six recipes with estimated learn levels.

Tailoring 225-300: The Untested Part

Tailoring 225 to 300 in WoW Forever can’t be tested before launch, because Artisan needs character level 35. The thresholds below are from the beta client; the route is our plan on paper. The last trainer recipe that gives skill, Runecloth Belt, goes grey at 255, and every step after it needs a pattern whose Forever source nobody has found yet (Zockify lists them as unknown).

SkillRecipe (yellow / grey)CraftsMaterialsRecipe from
225-235Runecloth Belt (225 / 255)1236 Bolts of Runecloth, 12 Rune ThreadTrainer, about 210 (our estimate)
235-250Runecloth Gloves (245 / 275)1662 Bolts of Runecloth, 62 Rugged Leather, 16 Rune ThreadPattern, skill 230, source unknown
250-275Runecloth Headband (265 / 295)27108 Bolts of Runecloth, 54 Ironweb Spider Silk, 27 Rune ThreadPattern, skill 250, source unknown
275-290Runecloth Shoulders (275 / 305)21143 Bolts of Runecloth, 41 Ironweb Spider Silk, 82 Rugged Leather, 21 Rune ThreadPattern, skill 260, source unknown

For the last ten points, the beta data offers only expensive options:

Option for 290-300CraftsMaterialsCatch
Runecloth Shoulders31218 Bolts of Runecloth (1,090 Runecloth), 63 Ironweb Spider Silk, 125 Rugged LeatherSuccess drops from 50% to 20% per craft
Venomspew Cord to 295, Venomspew Footpads to 3001788 Bolts of Runecloth, 17 Small Brilliant Shards, 50 Essences of Air, 99 Rune Thread (about 50 gold)New Forever patterns, source unknown; the Swarmtender’s versions use Essence of Water
Runed Stygian Belt1020 Bolts of Runecloth, 60 Dark Runes, 20 Felcloth, 20 Enchanted Leather, 20 Ironweb Spider SilkOrange until 300, but Dark Runes are pricey

Mooncloth gives a point now and then as well: it gives skill until 300, but you can only make one every 95 hours.

Tailoring 1-300 Shopping List

This is the full shopping list for our WoW Forever Tailoring route to 290, from exact expected craft counts (so slightly below the rounded steps added up). Add 5 to 10% for unlucky yellow crafts.

Material1-225225-290Total
Linen Cloth6060
Wool Cloth9393
Silk Cloth512512
Mageweave Cloth815815
Runecloth1,7401,740
Coarse Thread (10 copper)2626
Fine Thread (1 silver)9191
Silken Thread (5 silver)3030
Heavy Silken Thread (20 silver)9797
Rune Thread (50 silver)7575
Blue Dye (50 copper)3333
Red Dye (50 copper)8181
Orange Dye (10 silver)1212
Bleach1010
Rugged Leather143143
Ironweb Spider Silk9595

Thread and dye prices are the beta client’s vendor prices, the same as Classic; any Tailoring supply vendor sells them. From 225 to 290, Rune Thread adds about 38 gold and Artisan training 4.5 gold.

Cloth Needed per Skill Bracket and Where It Drops

Cloth demand for WoW Forever Tailoring is small until 100 and then climbs with every rank: Silk for 100 to 170, Mageweave for 140 to 225 and Runecloth for everything after.

Bar chart of raw cloth needed per 25-point WoW Forever Tailoring skill bracket, from 48 Linen at 1-25 to 711 Runecloth at 275-290, compared with a standard Classic route that stays one cloth tier lower from 175 to 250
Cloth per skill bracket, counted where you turn it into bolts. Our calculation from the beta and Classic Era client thresholds.
ClothUsed in our routeDrops from (Classic, roughly)
Linen Cloth1-55Humanoids up to about level 20
Wool Cloth55-100Humanoids around level 15 to 30
Silk Cloth100-170Humanoids around level 25 to 40
Mageweave Cloth140-225Humanoids around level 41 to 50 (a trickle from 36)
Runecloth225-300Humanoids around level 51 to 60
Felcloth (for Mooncloth)230 and upSatyrs and demons in Felwood and Azshara

Forever’s cloth drop tables aren’t public, so the level ranges are Classic’s. The timing problem is the Expert rank: our route needs about 815 Mageweave while your character may still be level 20 to 35, and Mageweave drops from about level 35. In the first weeks after launch, expect Mageweave to be the expensive part, or pause Tailoring around 170 until you can farm it yourself.

Reagent Bags: The Tailoring Gold Angle in WoW Forever

Every WoW Forever character gets a separate reagent bag slot, and Tailoring makes seven reagent bags from 6 to 20 slots, as our WoW Forever professions guide covers. Slot counts are from the beta client’s item data.

Reagent bagSlotsSkillMain materialsPattern from
Linen Reagent Bag656 Bolts of Linen Cloth, 6 Coarse ThreadUnknown
Woolen Reagent Bag8703 Bolts of Woolen Cloth, Fine Thread, Cerulean DyeUnknown
Silk Reagent Bag101253 Bolts of Silk Cloth, 2 Heavy Leather, 3 Fine Thread, 3 Cerulean DyeQuest: I Need a Tailor
Mageweave Reagent Bag121904 Bolts of Mageweave, 2 Heavy Silken Thread, Magenta Dye, Cerulean Dye60 Merchant’s Favor
Runecloth Reagent Bag142155 Bolts of Runecloth, 2 Rugged Leather, Rune Thread, Viridian Dye60 Merchant’s Favor
Mooncloth Reagent Bag182554 Bolts of Runecloth, Mooncloth, Rune Thread, 10 Viridian Dye, Magenta Dye, Cerulean DyeUnknown
Bottomless Reagent Bag203008 Bolts of Runecloth, 12 Mooncloth, 2 Large Brilliant Shards, 5 each of Pristine Leather, Pristine Hide and Pristine ScaleUnknown

The 8- to 18-slot bags need Cerulean, Magenta or Viridian Dye. Only alchemists make those, from two Scarce herbs each (Frilled Lichen, Rosecap, Stranglevine), so reagent bag supply depends on how often herbalists find them. In the beta client, alchemists make Cerulean Dye from skill 50, Magenta from 130 and Viridian from 230. Leatherworkers make a 6-slot Light Leather Reagent Bag, so the Linen bag has competition. From 8 slots up, Tailoring has the market to itself in the beta data. Our take: if the Linen and Woolen patterns turn out to be easy to get, they’re the best sellers of launch week, because every new character wants one.

What to Sell While Leveling Tailoring

  • Sell: the 20 or so Red Mageweave Bags from 210 to 225, since normal bags still sell, and reagent bags whenever you have a pattern.
  • Keep a few for writs: Craftsman’s Writs ask for Azure Silk Hood and Black Mageweave Vest from this route, plus items like Lesser Wizard’s Robe, Small Silk Pack, Mageweave Bag, Runecloth Bag and Runecloth Boots, per Zockify’s Tailoring overview. Sealed Writs drop from enemies and can be traded; a turn-in gives 75, 125 or 200 reputation with the Azeroth Commerce Authority or Durotar Supply and Logistics.
  • Disenchant: Woolen Capes, Azure Silk Hoods, Crimson Silk Vests and every Black Mageweave piece are uncommon, which is why Enchanting is the classic Tailoring partner.
  • Mooncloth: if you find the pattern (skill 230), start the cooldown at once. Forever adds new uses for it: the two biggest reagent bags and five new skill 300 recipes.

Merchant’s Favor Tailoring Patterns

WoW Forever adds 67 Tailoring patterns bought with Merchant’s Favor, but none is a good skill-up recipe: the gear patterns need 6 to 18 bolts per craft plus alchemist dyes. You earn Favor from Waylaid Crates and spend it at the Azeroth Commerce Authority camp at Three Corners in Redridge (10.5, 72.7) or the Durotar Supply and Logistics camp west of the Crossroads (49.7, 29.5), per Zockify’s Merchant’s Favor page. Favor is per character.

FavorPatterns (skill)Versions
30Boots (60), Gloves (75), Sash (85), Circlet (100), Gown (110), Leggings (125)Flame, Pearly, Pristine, Shadow, Shining, Silky: each adds Fire Oil, Small Lustrous Pearl, Pristine Leather, Shadowgem, Pyrite or Spider’s Silk
60Handwraps (165), Nether shoulders (195) and cuffs (205), Waistcords (215), Mageweave and Runecloth Reagent BagsBlack, Fiery, Frothing, Gilded, Golden, Radiant lines with Black Pearl, Heart of Fire, Globe of Water, Gold Bar, Golden Pearl or Large Radiant Shard
90Sandals (235)Same six lines

Buy the two reagent bag patterns first. The gear sets are new item lines whose stats we haven’t compared yet. Similar “Filigreed” patterns drop in the Deadmines, Shadowfang Keep, Wailing Caverns, Blackfathom Deeps, the Stockade and Ragefire Chasm; they stay orange for only five points. At 300, 1,000 Favor buys the Tailoring Certification, which unlocks the account-wide “the Tailor” title.

Mooncloth, Camp Objects and Legacy Points

Mooncloth is the reworked part of high-end Tailoring in WoW Forever. The pattern needs skill 230 instead of 250, and Mooncloth is yellow from 270 and grey at 300 (Classic: 290 and 320). It still turns two Felcloth into one Mooncloth, and the tooltip still asks for a moonwell and four days between crafts; the actual cooldown in the beta client is 95 hours (SpellCooldowns), one hour less than Classic’s. Mooncloth gear recipes go grey 10 to 35 points earlier, Mooncloth Bag now also takes 16 alchemist dyes, and Forever adds Mooncloth to the two biggest reagent bags and to five new skill 300 recipes with Malleable Essence of Nature: Cloak of Earth and Sky, Fel Cape, Mana-infused Cord, Rime-encrusted Boots and Robes of Fiery Devastation.

Tailoring’s camp objects give a Spirit buff, similar to Divine Spirit, to players sitting at your campfire:

  • Faction Banner (trainer, skill 20; a Bolt of Linen Cloth and Coarse Thread): yellow from 20 to 25, so make one when you learn it.
  • Spinning Wheel (Blueprint, skill 140; 5 Bolts of Silk Cloth, 2 Simple Wood, 3 Fine Thread): the Blueprint drops from the Unstable Sentinel in the new City of Dalaran dungeon, per Zockify.
  • Loom (Blueprint, skill 300; Bottled Screams, 4 Bolts of Runecloth, 4 Simple Wood): Blueprint source unknown.

Reaching 150, 225 and 300 Tailoring each earns one account-wide point for the WoW Forever Legacy System, whose Working Overtime perk raises skill-up chances and would cut the yellow-craft counts above.

What We Don’t Know Yet

  • Trainer learn levels for six recipes on our route. They follow a rule that fits every tested case and 145 of 151 patterns, but nobody has tested them.
  • Where the patterns for Tailoring 235 to 300 come from, along with the Linen, Woolen, Mooncloth and Bottomless Reagent Bags. In Classic, Qia in Everlook sold the Runecloth Bag and Mooncloth patterns.
  • Whether Forever’s skill-up chances follow Classic’s formula. Our craft counts assume they do.
  • Cloth drop rates and level ranges in Forever, and how fast Mageweave reaches the auction house after launch.
  • Whether Mooncloth still needs a moonwell, as its tooltip says.

FAQ

Where is the tailoring trainer in WoW Forever?

Every capital has Apprentice and Journeyman tailoring trainers in WoW Forever, for example Snang and Magar in Orgrimmar’s Drag and Lawrence Schneider and Sellandus in Stormwind’s Mage Quarter. Expert is only taught by Georgio Bolero in Stormwind and Josef Gregorian in Undercity, Artisan by Timothy Worthington in Theramore and Daryl Stack in Tarren Mill.

What is the fastest way to level Tailoring 1-300 in WoW Forever?

Make bolts while they give skill and keep them: Bolt of Linen Cloth to 30, Linen Belt to 55, Wool bolts and Woolen Capes to 100, Silk bolts and Azure Silk Hoods to 135, Crimson Silk Vests to 170 and Black Mageweave gear to 225. After that, Runecloth Belt to 235 and patterns to 300. It takes about 350 crafts to reach 290, not counting the extra bolts.

How big are Tailoring reagent bags in WoW Forever?

WoW Forever Tailoring reagent bags have 6 (Linen), 8 (Woolen), 10 (Silk), 12 (Mageweave), 14 (Runecloth), 18 (Mooncloth) and 20 slots (Bottomless), according to the beta client. The 8- to 18-slot bags need dyes that only alchemists make.

Sources: Blizzard’s beta development notes (October 8), which have no Tailoring changes. Beta data from SeeMeta, Zockify, WoW-Professions and Icy Veins; the game data of the beta client (build 1.60.1.70338) and of Classic Era, read via wago.tools; Classic data from classicdb. Maps: Blizzard Entertainment, from Warcraft Wiki’s map files.